Karma System

[Mistress Tatl.]

Okay. So to work out the new karma system, I think there are a few things that need to be decided.

FIRST. How much karma will each member receive per post? This will ultimately be essential to deciding how much our "shop" items cost. I think five for post is fair. And that the cheaper items in the shop might need roughly fifty posts (250 karma) but the more valuable things might cost more around 1000 karma. Then of course, competitions and whatnot could reward karma for participation and for rewards. Perhaps when you participate in assignments you get 10 karma? Of the months could include karma rewards too.

SECOND. Lets organize what will and won't help you to receive karma! I'll go ahead and post some things that might work and what their value might be. Feel free to jump in with more ideas or changes.
 - Posting: 5 karma?
 - Assignments: 10 karma?
 - Competitions: 10 karma for participation? (prizes would probably vary per contest)
 - Of the Months: 20 karma?
 - A reward for attracting other members to the site? (They have to specifically name you to an admin): 10 karma?

THIRD. We need to decide what sort of things karma can buy. I would say four "tiers" of items?
Tier 1 - Best items. 1000 karma.
Tier 2 - Great items. 750 karma.
Tier 3 - Good items. 500 karma.
Tier 4 - Basic items. 250 karma.

PROPOSED BEST ITEMS.
- Original character
- Extra character slot
- Adaptations from multiple clans
- Non-feline character [purchase of new language required to communicate with felines]
- Forbidden relationship [karma may contributed by one or both of the contributing members] [must pay for each reason the relationship is forbidden. ex: multi clan 1x, med cat and warrior multi clan x2, med cat multi clan x3]

PROPOSED GREAT ITEMS.
- Accessories like make-shift bags or pouches
- Unusual adaptation [MUST BE APPROVED BY ADMIN]
- Ability to speak new language [can communicate to non-feline species of purchaser's choice]

PROPOSED GOOD ITEMS.
- Small decorative accessories like collars
- Unusual fur color
- Unusual structure [like a munchkin cat or something]
- Born-with handicaps [three legs, blind, deft, etc]

PROPOSED BASIC ITEMS.
- Unusual markings
- Unusual eye colors

FEEL FREE. To suggest more! I will ad it. And I will add more as I think of them.

ALSO. Do you want to allow these in cat's histories (not their actual lives) without paying? We could make any items available for histories at a price of 100 karma if you want, too.

[FENRIS]

Most of these are hella rad u w u The only things I'm kinda 'ehh' about are the adaptations from two Clans and non-feline animals. We decided to make it so the parent with the highest level adaptation would be passed down to the kits, it seems kinda Sue-ish to me otherwise. And what exactly are the plans for non-feline animals?

[Mistress Tatl.]

Perhaps it could be "reasonable" mixes? We could pre-plan a set of adaptations for each possible clan mix. Like maybe a cat who has wind-clan adaptations might be half Riverclan in blood. So the cat is a bit bulkier and can't move as fast, but has a larger lung capacity like a Riverclan cat and has more stamina? Or perhaps we could say somewhere else that adaptations pass down via the mother, so that in possible mixed clan relationships, if kits were born it would make sense for them to be with the mother? xD

I imagine non-feline animals would be played sort of like rogues. Their adaptations would have to imitate the clans' probably. In other words, reflect their need for survival in their natural environment. People could make things like foxes or canines that might harass cats. Or they could make birds or mice or voles or whatever and you could role play out hunts with other people? XD I figure it's not something we'd want a ton of, which is why you have to post 200 times to get to that level xD

I don't remind removing them if you all want, though.

I was also thinking about adding prophecies to the list? Like you can pay for your non-high position feline to receive a prophecy involving the main plot or something?

[Phlox]

I think half-clan cats are an interesting idea. Non-felines, i think might be too complex.

Also maybe it should only be awarded for in-character posts, or less for posts in games threads? It is doable. 


Here's how it'd be implemented. There are three plugins here:

v4 style karma. Not actually going to work for this system. For this reason, we may want to rename our currency.

Points-per-post. Automatically gives points of our desired currency for posting and starting a new thread. You can adjust it so it only works in some boards. Shop would be located in a thread. Buying things or giving points for things other than posts requires having staff go in and change the amount.

Full monetary system. Gives points by the same mechanism. Editable shop where items can be bought without staff action, and bought items will be listed in an inventory where they can be removed by staff when used. Points can be transferred between accounts, I believe there is a toggle for it, so you could transfer all points to your ooc account when ready to spend them. There's also a ton of other options that come with it, but I haven't worked with it much yet so I can't list them all. I am particularly interested in this one, as it is more flexible. I really like working with that kind of thing so I'd be willing to play around with it and give you guys some more info.

[Mistress Tatl.]

I definitely think Karma should only be an in-character post thing. And as for karma vs monetary system, I would say karma. Just because I think only staff should be able to handle it. If regular members to create shops would make it easier for certain members to get reward. Life if I had a graphic shop and a template shop where I charged a fair amount for my work, suddenly I can buy all the top tier things without posting in character. I've used the monetary system on a few sites before but I just think that karma works better.

[Phlox]

In either case I think we should rename it so as not to be confused with the old karma system, because it isn't really karma. It's a points system.

[Mistress Tatl.]

That I can agree with! Perhaps we could name it something like "mouse tails" or "butterflies" or "catmint" or something? To relate to the forum topic.

[Sprout]

Was it this website that the karma point thingys were called 'prey points'? I don't remember but I really liked that name.

[Phlox]

Prey Points are the system implemented on Trying Times! They use the simple point-per-post system. c:

[FENRIS]

The word game I mentioned on the other thread could go towards points too btw~

Maybe we could add twins for a prize too?? Idk about you guys but I love twin characters they're perf.

[Mistress Tatl.]

Prey Points sounds good. For perhaps just simply "Fresh Kill Pile"?

I think it will always be up to the admins to run contests and games and whatnot where you can get extra points outside of role play posts.

Now for twins: I assume you mean identical twins? If you have to pay for them, there should be something in the rules that says you can't make them unless they're purchased. And it would probably be another one where more than one person (perhaps each of the people "adopting" the twins if they're being adopted, or by one or both of the parents adopting them off). And then twins should probably involve some sort of almost supernatural connection where they can sense each other's emotions and almost read each other's minds.